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8Sep/1129

Bakacast – The Pompadour Always Wins

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I could start off this post with a bunch of poppycock about who appeared on the podcast and which news stories we covered and BLAH BLAH BLAH, but there's really only one thing you care about.

Yes, this is the podcast where we review Redline.

That single fact eclipses almost everything else because Redline is an absolutely amazing work of art, a must-see film. If you have not watched this masterpiece, do so now. Otherwise, enjoy our review and discussion of it.

Also, No. 6 sucks.

  • 1:54 - Whatcha been doing?
  • 14:55 - Redline
  • 28:17 - Hanasaku Iroha 22
  • 36:35 - Steins;Gate 22
  • 48:34 - Ikoku Meiru no Croisee 8 & 9
  • 54:29 - Bunny Drop 9
  • 58:38 - No. 6 9*
  • 1:06:17 - Dantalian no Shoka 8
  • 1:10:30 - Mawaru Penguindrum 8
  • 1:16:56 - My Little Pony 19 & 20
  • 1:30:09 - Listener questions

We didn't get enough listener questions this time, so send us more! Please email them to bakacast[at]projectharuhi.net or leave them in the comments below.

*Giggity.

About Jon

Jon is a Japanese culture enthusiast, professional pervert and roleplaying fanatic who appreciates flexible gender identities. He enjoys science fiction, Gunpla, classical music and Red Stripe.

  • Happy birthday, Dust! That’s one of favorite tunes by Queen, too. “I just gotta get out of this prison cell. Someday I’m gonna be free~” – always saying that at work!
    This is my all time fave: http://youtu.be/rBUr1pSWTVI

    I heard Redline was sort of like a live-action Speed Racer (the film) and I loved the hell out of that film. Even saw twice in the theater. This film sounds “eeeeeeeh”, though. Hearing a lot of love and hate about it.

    • Jon

      Redline is like Speed Racer on crack.

    • Ryu

      wait is there some other live action speed racer film that I don’t know about???

    • @Ryu_01:disqus Naw, just my terrible wording from trying to write at 2 in the morning BUT since you inquired…

      There was “The New Adventures of Speed Racer”: http://youtu.be/OLiDrVU7mdM and ”
      Speed Racer: The Next Generation”  http://youtu.be/m89zi1z8X3w
      Haven’t seen either one so I can’t vouch for quality, but I’ll allow to make the observations for yourself.

    • You know, I haven’t seen Redline but I reckon if you like it you might really like this short 15min. film,

      The Running Man (1989)-directed by Yoshiaki Kawajiri – from the compilation “Neo Tokyo:
      http://youtu.be/GcQMYyAO_do

      Makes me wish I could drive! (…not really)

    • Ryu

      Running (the animated short) man owns.

  • Pokey

    Hello again, Bakacast. Heres a question completely unrelated to anime!Do you prefer Macs or Windows or what ever brand you use, iPod/iPhone or Android/any other brand and why? 

    • Ryu

      You forgot something 

      -Posted from my ipad

    • Anonymous

      I think 2-3 episodes ago they pretty much did the Mac/Windows question after somebody asked about high end laptops.  The conclusion I took away was that Macs are nice but you pay a large Apple tax that generally speaking isn’t worth it. 

      Don’t think I’ve heard the iOS/Android/etc. question though. If you’re also interested in advice from some random guy who’s owned both, I have a pre-existing comparison list I can post.

    • Anonymous

      Android pluses: Options to use Swype or physical keyboard for input, voice commands, integrated Google Navigation, use as a USB key (drag and drop off and on), mini-USB and HDMI outputs, more customizable desktop/widgets, 4G availability, Flash, google account = good cloud sync, almost unsupervised app store + sideload apps off the web, removable battery and SD card

      iPhone pluses: Better battery life, slightly more accurate keyboard, smoother scrolling/zooming, better camera (vs. most android models), larger gaming library, better versions of some key apps, Netflix (not on most android models), Hulu, less menus, no preinstalled carrier bloatware, less management required, iTunes sync = fast management, carefully guarded app store, easier to navigate app store, hard to screw up. 

      My bottom line is that the first 5 Android items are big enough pluses *for me* to ignore the at times slightly clunkier interface. Now that I have been living with them for a little while they are non-negotiable requirements for any future smartphone purchase. And Apple’s insistence on proprietary input jacks and (prior to the latest generation) data management via iTunes irritates the heck out of me.  But you may feel different depending on your priorities.  If you’re going to be intimidated by popping the battery out to reset the phone when it locks up every couple months, get an iPhone.

    • Well humm … OpenSuSe user myself ..
      If I need M.S. it’s Win XP Pro ATM. However plans for a Win 7 machine loom ahead.

      Phone is very low tech it’s a Motorola Razr3. All I need to do is talk. The laptop and 4G do the rest.

      Smart phone um someday maybe right now they break too easy and I’m a little tough on my portable electronics.

    • Ryu

      MY IMMERSION

  • Just found out that, the EP 4.5 of Ikoku Meiro no Croisée does in fact exist. More info can be found at http://myanimelist.net/anime/10804/Ikoku_Meiro_no_Crois%C3%A9e_Special

  • Anonymous

    – Thanks for taking my question. In some ways I’m glad to hear that there isn’t a ton of stuff out there that I’ve missed, if only because it makes me feel on top of things.  I think most authors feel that if you’re going to do sci-fi you have to have some aliens or else why do sci-fi, but I think that it really off-routes a lot of interesting things they could be doing with the setting. Just the changes that necessarily happen to political structures produce all kinds of interesting results. I’m actually planning to watch Evangelion next since that’s the other series everyone always talks about, and then on to Firefly (I was meh on Serenity but this has to be the thousandth time I’ve heard the TV show is way better) and piles of Gundam… whew, that’s actually a lot of material!
     
    – Regarding Karen’s comment: I think Red Mars (book  1) is pretty great. Lots and lots of interesting tech ideas for the scientist, a well crafted and nuanced political narrrative (if a bit of a standard, predictable colonization>revolution progression), and passable but not amazing characters.  Blue Mars (book 2) is undisciplined and messy but concludes the arc from book 1 in a reasonably  satisfying fashion.  Green Mars (book 3) is a trainwreck down to the level of the prose, and I didn’t make it all that far.  The author’s decision to use biological advances to keep the mediocre main characters around, and focus on them through a couple hundred years of terraforming doesn’t work very well.  Still, book 1 approaches the level of classic and I would definitely pick it up if you’re the type of person who can walk away without finishing a series and still feel satisfied.
     
    – Regarding the handful of stars setting I asked about, an easy way to set one up (that I haven’t seen used) is to have fairly quick FTL travel via gates but make the ships used to set up those gates incredibly slow – maybe 1/10th the speed of light, roughly the current maximum speed projected by NASA.  Then you have a situation where it takes decades or centuries to open up a new planetary system or two, and the cost and planning involved can constrain the number of systems as much as desired. 
     
    Here’s a question for next week, since you asked: are there certain ways of handling the question of travel in science fiction that you think tend to not work well for stories, or one that works particularly well?  I find that hard-SF “slow boat” travel stories almost always either break out crazy alien interactions halfway through, or could have pretty easily been replicated on a submarine or at an Antarctic base.   I also get frustrated with travel at the speed of Star Wars episodes 1-3, where seemingly the whole galaxy can be crossed in a few hours.  What’s the point, and how are there so many lawless areas just 30 minutes from the capital anyway?
     
    – Two more classic examples of dystopias that project current unhealthy cultural trends into the future, along the lines of Wall-E, that I want to mention are Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451 and Terry Gilliam’s movie Brazil.  Neither is without flaws or a few dated technological assumptions, but there’s lots of great material there.
     
    – Obligatory geeky pony comments, Pinkie’s pet Gummy previously appeared in Feeling Pinkie Keen, and Tabitha St. Germain’s primary voice credit on the show is Rarity.  Other than Tara Strong, all of the main character voice actresses work in Toronto, the same city as the studio that’s directing things, and they wind up doing a ton of different minor characters more or less as needed.
     
    – Finally, a wall of text on black-and-white conflicts, which are probably among my biggest pet peeves in fiction. The big problem with black and white conflict to me isn’t necessarily the obvious outcome, because outside of a handful of downer ’70’s movies the protagonist basically always wins no matter how nuanced the villain is. My problem is that they always lack psychological relatability, because virtually nobody in the real world thinks of themselves as pure evil.  Indeed almost everybody believes that they’re the good guy, with perhaps a few flaws. The most vile autocrats today probably are able to convince themselves that they are the only one who can hold their country together and/or protect their ethnic or religious faction from other factions and/or counterbalance Western democratic countries.  The decision to make a villain pure black impacts the good guys as well, because as you indirectly point out, they have virtually no relationship with the villain.
     
    I have to admit that I do not find Lord of the Rings nearly as interesting as most people seem to, although I certainly give Tolkien tons of credit for pulling together the large majority of modern fantasy creatures. I appreciate the point about Tolkien shifting the conflicts to be internal to the main characters, but (at least in the movies) I didn’t find them to be very interesting.  Frodo is the purest Hobbit around and the Ring tries to corrupt him in a fairly unspecified manner.  It would be a lot better if we had insights into, say, a specific psychological weakness that the Ring was keying on. Similarly while Aragorn does go from a loner to a king, does his character really change that much?  Can anyone point out a good moment of emotional tension regarding this transition in the movies? I will agree that the movies have a lot of more nuanced minor villains, but that is largely a modern innovation.
     
    Which brings me to a final point: I would suggest that such good-vs-evil setups were actually far more relevant and tension-inducing for readers in a world where it wasn’t clear whether capitalist democracy would triumph against fascism or communism.  Now we’re in a world of messy grays where the only question is how much corruption and media control is at the top of a country’s capitalist system and how much of an avenue the people have for redress.  In this modern world, stories with complicated political conflicts, alliances, and bargaining far better reflect our cultural and psychological tensions. 
     

    • Ryu

      Apparently Tolkein was quite upset afterwards about the fact that he didn’t give the orcs/bad dudes a fair shake.

      Also believe it or not exactly the same kinds of things were happening in Orwell and Tolkein’s time, which is why a lot of Orwell’s stuff has aged so well imo

    • Ryu

      Also Tolkein would of been better off to get a ghost writer hth cause god damn reading his prose is like clawing at a brick wall until your fingers are bloody points of bone and jesus christ theres six more pages dedicated to the trading practices of gondor and how this relates to the colour of tom bombadils gumboots

  • Dayriff

    One thing I don’t get on the Hanasaku Iroha review is why everyone was so doubtful that Grandma really wants to close the inn,  It makes sense with what we’ve learned of Kissui Inn’s backstory.  This is not a business that has been handed down in the family for generations.  It was started by Grandma and her husband as adults as a very personal dream.  Now the husband is dead, the old friend who ran it with them is retiring, Grandma is tired, and the inn itself is apparently barely afloat.  Why wouldn’t she just pack it in and let her kids find their own dream?

    During the Stein’s Gate discussion I was amazed you didn’t reference the greatest time travel movie of all time, “Back to the Future”.  For me the end of episode 22 was a total BttF moment.  “Doc, I’m back from the future… and I need your help!”

    I guess my emailed listener questions didn’t get there in time?  I sent them in last Friday night.  Not sure when you record, but I thought it was later than that.  Or did they get lost?  There should be two from “Matthew” in the bakacast inbox about your favorite guilty pleasure anime and why aren’t male protagonists allowed to admit they want to date.

    • Ryu

      Forget it Jake, it’s Hanasaku town

  • Ryu
  • Ryu

    yo thanks for answering my question, much appreciated.

    • Ryu

      tho I’m not gonna lie glenn, after all the crazy ex girlfriends in Dantalian I think it’s time for a lady who smokes cigars and hangs out in a tank top and jeans.

  • David Josselyn

    Regarding Steins;Gate and the question of what else changes when the D-Mails are undone; I believe it was Suzuha who explained that CERN (SERN) used a global eavesdropping program (something similar to Echelon, I forget what she called it) searching for evidence of functioning time machines. Okarin’s first unintentional D-Mail, sent to Daru’s phone while he was running a test– the message that saves Kurisu– is what alerts CERN to the Phone Microwave’s existence and gives then a leg up in developing their own machine by 2036.

  • Ryu
  • John Chrichton

    Hey guys!!!! This is a listener question for the next ep!
    i would usually email this, but gmail decided it was gonna give me up. so yeah, the questions here!!

    QUESTION TIME!!! okay, so i decided to move backwards through anime history and i arrived (in the form of a human gel banana) at FLCL (Fooly Cooly, or Furi Kuri. whichever you prefer.) after filly my eye sockets with, (in my opinion) one of the greatest show in the history of eternity, i wondered what you guys thought of it. i sort of remember you guys mentioning it in passing, but never a review. Please bestow your loyal listeners with all knowing knowledge of the all mighty Bakacast hierarchy. And Dustin can help too. An overall rating of the show would be great.

    thanks for the great show and keep up the great work guys!
     your loyal servant and post apocalyptic desert wanderer,
      John Crichton

    • John Chrichton

      sorry!! i meant filling, not filly! (second line of “QUESTION TIME”) please excuse my typo.  

  • John Chrichton

    Hello Bakacast, and listeners. i know it’s usually rude to double post, but this can’t be helped. The creation of the unofficial  official Bakacast TV tropes page.

    Please feel free to add, but don’t delete any of the important content! (all of it)

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Bakacast (and it’s not a troll page, Ryu. calm down.)

    • Bakacast is an amazing podcast maned by Otaku, Jon, Dustin, Larry, Glen, Karen and various special guests.

      Manned has 2 N’s in it

      http://www.Project Haruhi.org

      We are .net   not .org

      Thank you…

    • Ryu

      no no what I was saiyan was that tv tropes is kinda bad, I mean have you SEEN the (now removed?) troper tales section?[ergh my other post contained one but I think that mighta contained some offensive language, sorry mods] or the fetish fuel one?

  • Nimue

    Happy B-day Dustin!  I just started listening so if these questions has been askes before sorry about that.  I’m also sorry I don’t have some witty beginning like Hatechan would.  I am indeed known for my smart mouth.  But then, if all I had to do all day is think about funny things to say to people I can’t see, instead of getting some, I think I would be just as funny.  Anyway first I’d like to know what really draws you, Jon, Larry and Glen to the Science fiction/Syfy genre of Anime.  Also if you could have any job real or not what would it be?